How many of you here have ever caught any fish using a Wuff or Adams dry fly or a stonefly nymph?...hands up!
i guess there not too many if theres any at all.

ceritanya...setaip flytier pernah coba ikat fly2 yg terkenal dan cantik yg terdapat dari majalah atau dari internet. soalnya ada ka fly2 yg terkenal di negeri2 barat cocok buat mancing di perairan asia?...belum tentu cocok.

aku dan temen2 dah ber tahun2 mikir hal ini..dan kami telah banyak buat perubahan dan coba patent2 ikatan yg baru.
dari pengalaman aku...fly yg sering dapat ikan ialah fly yg simple dan keliatan jelek.

the question is.... are you tying the flies to attract the fishes or to attract the attention of humans who view it? there are some very beautifull fly patent created, some looks like a real insect or a bait fish...but weather they catch any fish is a different story all together.

here i like to show some effective local created flies, some of them are my own creation and some are from friends. we keep them simple , easy to tie and most of all they are created to suit our local asian fishes.
hope some of these patent would be usefull to you all


these are the material that i usually use. i prefer natural furs and feathers ...and the thing is they are not at all expensive. ..infact any furs or feathers could be use...from your pet cats, dogs or birds



i usually use small sized hooks...




this fly patent originated from the famous Hamilton Killer fly...a new zealand patent. recreated to suit local waters. best for Pacus , peacock bass and any midwater predators. suited for fishing along the weeds and vegetation,as its hook is well protected by the flank feathers.



first tie in a strand of peacock herl on a size 10 straight shank hook



next tie in a pair of feathers on both sides of the hook


then wrap the peacock herl further up the shank



tie in the next two pairs of feather...and finish the herl just before the hook eye



finally tie in another pair of feathers in different colour, then paint the eyes with enemel paint.....Finish

another easy to tie fly that i created for Pacus . actually i created this patent on site....the pacus are going crazy, everyone is getting strikes except me...the reason is im using a small size 12 fly ...the guys are using bigger size ones, 6 or 5 sized.
well...pantang kok jika minjam fly dari temen2...its a matter of face if you know what i mean.
i do not have any hook bigger than size 10....so i use a size 10...and try to create a bigger body and it must be light..so this is actually a simple on site tied fly and it works.
later i refine this fly by adding the green wet hackle....i call it FACE...coz it did save me some face at that time.


first tie in a strand of marabou as tail...then wip the rest back


then wrap the remaining marabou up the shanks.....this was how the original tied on site fly looks the 1st time.....i got 3 pacus on a patent like this



later models comes with a wet hackle. just split a flank feather into two using a sharp pen knife



tie one half of the flank feather just before the hook eye and give it a few wrap and tie off



FACE


the original created form...a big looking fly on a small hook

Split tail.....this is a very popular fly among malaysian flyfishers...who created this was never a question as there was no story behind it but this is something that works on most fresh water fishes.
to be honest i never did enjoy much success with this patent...as this fly requires one to strip in fast...and i dont really enjoy fast action flies.
never the less...many who did can swear they never go on a fishing trip without this fly....yet again this an easy to tie fly


try to make for yourself how its tied. materials are kip tail, cock neck saddle and flash

Great looking flies, thanks for the idea. I personnally have not tried fly fishing, but am very tempted to start.

Thank you for sharing the easy, catch-proved flies.

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Brader....think twice before you jump in...flyfishing is an addiction, something that will stay with you for life....so are you up to it??...hehehe
one thing i can tell you is ...you will enjoy the great moments of seeing a fish take a fly created by yourself....you will not sleep easy the first night on the day you catch you first fish on fly....thats the addiction...you want more the next day

thanks bos....but nothing is proven, as i must say there is no magic sure to catch fish fly.
its all up to the person who use it...a fisher might have the rite best proven fly, the best state of art rod, the most expensive fly line and reel...but yet he catches nothing if he lacks passion and the attitude.
i do not have an expensive rod..infact mine is an old cheap Martins which i got in 1987 and looks like one thats gonna break up in pieces on the next cast...what i lack in equipments i make up with passion and love for this sport...and to me thats more important, and its something i hope to depart to everyone here.

here are some example of classic dry flies...well, they havent actually worked for me ...and in all my years of fishing in asian waters i have only caught one fish ,a gourami on parachute fly...thats it....
but i did get a number of trouts using such flies while was still studying in england..well,..not too many, as i was a beginner then and i took up flyfishing 9 months before i finish school and off i went home to malaysia.
a known flyfishing kaki ,Aznir,says trouts are stupid fishes..as they are taking flies asian fishes would never touch..haha, maybe theres some truth in that
but i guess such flies are good for your tying skills ...nice items to have in your fly box


classic dry flies...a Royal wulff (american), greenwells glory(english) and parachute dunn(modern)




this is how a royal wulff is tied...white kip tail and peacock herl are tied to end of the hook shank





move the red tread up and create the red belly..then give the remaining peacock herl a few wraps around the hook



pull the front part of tied kip tail upright and using the tread to give it a few wraps aroung the root.
NOTE: in the classic wulff patent , the wings must lean forward at about 75 degrees.



tie in two brown honey cock neck feathers, then wrap the two feathers around the wings




finish ...note the angle of the white wings




look at how a wulff would stand on its hackles and tails...this how they float without the hook touching the water and this is the reason why a wulff is a classic since 1933




this one is called Greenwells Glory...there are many variant of this fly but i like the original form which was tied sometime in 1880s, tailess and slim.
this patent is almost 130 years old

the wings are from mallard quills feather...they must form a pair, ,meaning one from the left wing, the other from the right to form a match



a section is cut ...and must match to form a pair



the matching pair is then tie on top of the hook...not the sides or below. they must sit well balance on the top end of the hook nearest to the hook eye.
this is not an easy method...as some who had tried tying feather wings would agree. it takes abit of practise to get this right




pull the wings gently upright then give it a few wraps around the root using a figure 8 method, next use the tread to form the body.


then tie in a baddger cock neck saddle and wrap around the wings.




finish....note when wrapping the hackles, you must rotate in a single direction on a close and even turn...or else your hackles will look untidy.
see how all the hackles in this photo faces foward in one direction



another shot of this classic english dry fly





ok finally a modern era dry fly ...a parachute patent


tie in some golden pheasant neck feathers as tail


then tie in the wings and give it an upright look



tie in a cock saddle and give the body a coat of rabbit fur




pull the saddle back, then wrap it around the root of the wings on a vertical motion



finish

ok back to some local flies.

every fly fisher have a favourite fly...the one he never leaves home without,
this is mine...when everything seems to fail, this little fly is the one that saves my day. this fly is deadly when used with a full sinking or sinking tip line.
each time you reterive the fly will dive downwards wagging its tail, and when you stop it will float right up, more than often it will tease the fish up to feed on the surface...and 9 out 10, the strike will be a suface one...aaah im sure you love to see the splash of a suface strike....heart attack braders!


this is quite an easy to tie fly...just follow the simple steps

哇..!師父我來拜師了.....多多指教..!
nice sharing...suhu baru nih..!
dengan semakin banyak senior2 mau sharing soal tying.....fly fishing akan berkembang cepat tentunya..
.......bro tan.. saya sudah sering coba mancing ikan mas...., tapi selalu ....ikan mas begitu dekat...turun atau hampir makan tying ya... tapi tetap belom berhasil..????? boleh kan sharing model tying yang di pakai ikan mas dan serta teknik2 yg pernah berhasil...?! terima kasih....

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ikan mas pakei fly?...aku juga binggung brader...blom pernah coba.
soalnya ikan mas dan family carp jarang sekali tertipu dgn lure atau fly...bukan krn mereka pintar, tapi cara mereka makan beda dgn ikan2 yg lain. coba brader kmu liat posisi mulut ikan mas..downwards, bermakna mereka makan dari dasar atau sedut makanan di permukaan air.

aku pernah di bangkok mancing ikan2 patin pakei sponge fly...hook di pasang ke sponge yg kecil. tapi sebelum mancing aku taburkan kolam itu dgn roti, sponge kecil itu keliatan seperti roti...jadi naseb la , terserah patin makan roti atau sponge...

kmu arus tau yg ikan2 family carp sangat sensitive dgn bau...mereka biasanya hidup di dasar yg berlumpur dan mereka nyari makanan lewat bau dan bukan lewat mata mereka.

mr.tan...
saya ada sharing with beberapa suhu lain about soal (aroma minyak ) kata mereka hal ini sudah di benarkan pakai di fly...! (hanya negara eng yg belom setujui pakai di fly ) bagaimana pendapat bapak soal ini,.?
apa kah ada kemungkinan kalau untuk ikan mas sebaik pakai cara ini...?
actualy sudah 2 kali saya coba taburkan roti dan tunggu sampai ikan mas muncul di permukaan..air...(tapi pengalaman 2 kali hanya hampir aja hook up..... tapi dengan cepat ikan mas itu balik lagi ke bawa..!!..
saya sempat posting soal video fly ikan mas Fresh Water Fly Fishing ( danau / sungai / empang)

YouTube - Carp on the fly

sy sdh ikuti cara yg sesuai dengan gambar...but actualy saya tidak tahu isi bahasa soal eng yg di maksud...mungkin mr.tan bisa bantu sharing...thank sebelomnya..!

nice point... thank : ikan2 family carp sangat sensitive dgn bau...mereka biasanya hidup di dasar yg berlumpur dan mereka nyari makanan lewat bau dan bukan lewat mata mereka.

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aku pasti tidak setuju...aku gak ngerti jelasin knp gak setuju, pokoknya gak setuju. kmu bisa coba segala bahan2 utk buat umpan palsu, jika udah mulain pakei minyak2 aroma...maka bukan lagi flyfishing namanya..tapi bait fishing

mulai sih belom bro....!!!
karena sy sempat tanya beberapa senior di luar hal fly ikan mas...versi penjelasan masing2 lain..! dan saya tidak mau terjebak lagi di masa yg akan datang..!

makanya salah satu senior sarangkan saya coba pakai....merek Berkley aroma olie untuk coba...

tapi setelah cari2 di web baru saya tahu mau fly banyak aturan juga ya...?
isinya tegaskan bawa tidak di bolehkan " aroma alami atau aroma buatan.!

The lure must be a recognized type of artificial fly, which includes streamer, bucktail, tube fly, wet fly, dry fly, nymph, popper and bug. The use of any other type of lure or natural or preserved bait, either singularly or attached to the fly, is expressly prohibited. Only a single fly is allowed. Dropper flies are prohibited. The fact that a lure can be cast with a fly rod is not evidence in itself that it fits the definition of fly.The use of any lure designed to entangle or foul-hook a fish is prohibited. No scent, either natural or artificial is allowed on flies. The use of scented material in a fly is prohibited.
誘惑必須是一個公認的類型的人造飛行，其中包括拖纜， bucktail ，管飛，飛濕，幹飛，若蟲，波普爾和錯誤。使用任何其他類型的引誘或自然或保留的誘餌，無論是奇或附於飛， 是明文禁止的。只有一個單一的蒼蠅是不允許的。 滴管蒼蠅，是禁止的。這樣一個事實，即吸引可投與蒼蠅桿是在沒有證據本身，它適合的定義飛。使用任何引誘， 旨在糾纏或犯規鉤魚是禁止的。沒有氣味，無論是 自然的或人為的，是不允許的蒼蠅。使用芳香物質在蒼蠅是禁止的。

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silakan tambahkan jika ada rules lain soal fly.. biar kami belajar...!thank

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gak usah tambah2,,,dah jelas seperti yg ditulis IGFA..

menurut aku ...lets not burden ourself with this rules or that rules....just be yourself ,honest and enjoy the fishing

Yesterday a member of this forum took me around to check some fishing shops in jakarta...well,..to be honest, i have never visited one before and i was abit disapointed at first...Man, its Overkill, everything is big, for a light tackle angler like me, i wouldnt be interested in what they offer....but...ah ...always the but



look what i found...and these items could be turned into flies




i always love soft plastic lures...they are so ...ah..so flexiable..heres how i tie soft plastic


note the angle of the tail...they must be at a upwards direct for the tail to come into play








finish...such plastic flies are good for ikan gabus lokal...snakeheads...






this is a tandem popper...well , a chuckker actually as it doesnt product the popping sound as normal poppers would...instead it chucks, chucks ,chuck...due to alteration of the popper head




note the hole made at the center of the head...this will eliminate the poping sound and produce chuckings..just like a wounded fish



and again look at the shape of the head and the holes









Finish this fly is best for night fishing...Pacus to exact!!






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