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Old 13-04-2008, 06:55
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Question Reel spinning buat trolling apa bisa ?

saya mau nanya ama pakar trolling? apakah reel spinning bisa dipake buat trolling? kalau bisa, kira2 reel apa yang bisa dipake trolling en jigging? makasi atas pencerahaanya...
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Old 13-04-2008, 06:59
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Asal buat trolling sekedarnya cari tenggiri bisa aja kok pak. Kalau trolling serius cari Marlin ya gak bisa. Buat trolling & jigging bisa pake Freams 4500J diisi PE-4 atau PE-5.
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Setuju banget oom, kalau untuk daerah yang potensi ikannya medium, reel spining bisa di pakai, kalau untuk saya yang masih pemancing budget, reel spining tersebut yang penting bodynya terbuat dari logam dan spoolnya punya kapasitas line yang banyak.
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Old 13-04-2008, 20:55
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kalau reel okuma ato ryoby type apa om yang cocok buat PE6 yang kapasitas spoolnya besar en jumlah beringnya banyak? badget saya sekitar 1.5jt
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@kevin: utk Okuma mungkin tipe Axeon AXS 90, PE 65lb Tufline sekitar 250 m. Harga sekitar 1 jt.
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Ikut nimbrung.....

@ Fishy, Reel spining untuk trolling kira kira pake minow ukuran berapa cm ? atau life bait saja ? untuk dua umpan tersebut kalau reel spining dipake untuk trolling kecepatan kapal berapa ?

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Asal buat trolling sekedarnya cari tenggiri bisa aja kok pak. Kalau trolling serius cari Marlin ya gak bisa. Buat trolling & jigging bisa pake Freams 4500J diisi PE-4 atau PE-5.
Om Fishy, kalo Navi 8000PG apa juga bisa digunakan buat "trolling sekedarnya"?

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@ Fishy, Reel spining untuk trolling kira kira pake minow ukuran berapa cm ? atau life bait saja ? untuk dua umpan tersebut kalau reel spining dipake untuk trolling kecepatan kapal berapa ?

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Mau nambahin juga, kalo trolling sekedarnya pakai spinning, jarak lure dari kapal kira2 berapa meter?
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ya pokoknya lure ga kena ombak dari baling kapal....kira2 aja....kalo aku sihh yang pasti lebih dari 50m
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um.... hampir mirip ama yg ada di :

tanya kenur yang cocok buat di pantura??
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kalau reel okuma ato ryoby type apa om yang cocok buat PE6 yang kapasitas spoolnya besar en jumlah beringnya banyak? badget saya sekitar 1.5jt
Ngapain cari reel bearing banyak pak? Kalau kualitas bearingnya gak bagus gampang orosi malah jadi masalah, Lagipula jumlah bearing akan mempengaruhi berat reel (jadi makin berat) 3-4 ball bearing + 1 roller bearing sudah cukup sebenarnya. Kalau sanggup beli Stella/Saltiga ya OK aja pakai bearing banyak, tapi kalau reel ekonomis bearingnya banyak kayaknya malah bisa jadi masalah deh.

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@ Fishy, Reel spining untuk trolling kira kira pake minow ukuran berapa cm ? atau life bait saja ? untuk dua umpan tersebut kalau reel spining dipake untuk trolling kecepatan kapal berapa ?

Terimakasih.
Minnow 14 cm seperti yg banyak dipakai di Binu OK kok. Trolling minnow 4-6 knots, life bait 2-3 knots, reel apapun yg digunakan sama.

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Om Fishy, kalo Navi 8000PG apa juga bisa digunakan buat "trolling sekedarnya"?



Mau nambahin juga, kalo trolling sekedarnya pakai spinning, jarak lure dari kapal kira2 berapa meter?
Navi 800PG bisa aja buat trolling. Jarak dari kapal ya tergantung lurenya, dan kapalnya. Yang penting diluar propeller wash, bisa mulai di sekitar ombak ke tiga
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kalau reel okuma ato ryoby type apa om yang cocok buat PE6 yang kapasitas spoolnya besar en jumlah beringnya banyak? badget saya sekitar 1.5jt
pak kevin.. klok bajet segitu mending beli Navi 8000PG dari pada reel okuma ato ryoby..
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Old 22-04-2008, 17:34
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kalau reel okuma ato ryoby type apa om yang cocok buat PE6 yang kapasitas spoolnya besar en jumlah beringnya banyak? badget saya sekitar 1.5jt
wah sama kayak ason
reel Okuma eclipz ec90 udah oks bangeeeetttt....spoolnya muat 300m
line nya PE-8 jigman 300m pas ama reelnya
total Rp1,1jtan deh
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wah sama kayak ason
reel Okuma eclipz ec90 udah oks bangeeeetttt....spoolnya muat 300m
line nya PE-8 jigman 300m pas ama reelnya
total Rp1,1jtan deh
Penambahan dikit hehehe...soalnya gue juga pake itu jadi tau deh....mantaaapppp maannnnn
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kmaren troling di binu pake reel spinning dgn umpan konahead kenur habis di bawa lari ikan. jadi klo mo troling mendingan beli reel troling.
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kmaren troling di binu pake reel spinning dgn umpan konahead kenur habis di bawa lari ikan. jadi klo mo troling mendingan beli reel troling.
waduhh,,reel spinning buat troling kayanya recomended make umpan minnow deh. kalo pake konahead trs diembat marlin ya wasalam
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Pertama kali saya melihat spinning reel digunakan untuk trolling adalah sekitar 15 tahun y.l. ketika saya berkunjung ke Cairn - Australia , pada waktu itu musim giant black marlin belum tiba jadi saya beli ticket untuk mancing " light tackle game fishing " dan kebetulan dapat nya mancing dgn Capt. Peter Bristow dgn MV AVALON .

Pagi itu setelah saya beli minuman n makanan bekal untuk mancing seharian , saya langsung ke kapal dan disana saya lihat ada rod spinning pendek dgn Penn SS950 , langsung saya tanya kpd sang captain , " mana trolling outfit nya ? " dan dia nunjuk , itu apa ? Saya bingung krn saya pada saat itu saya berpendapat spinning reel tidak bisa digunakan untuk trolling .

Pada hari itu mancing berempat , kami CnR 4 ekor marlin ukuran kecil sekitar 30~40 kg dan beberapa tenggiri ukuran 12+ kg , beberapa marlin mocel dan beberapa tenggiri disantap
" petugas pajak laut " alias hiu . Waktu itu kami menggunakan umpan jahit ; balihoo n mullet dan belajar menjahit ikan adalah salah satu pelajaran yang sampai saat ini saya masih mencoba menyempurnakan , terlihat mudah sekali kalau Capt. Peter Bristow yang melakukan nya dan dalam waktu sangat singkat lagi .

Saya sendiri men CnR 1 marlin dan 2 ekor tenggiri dinaikan , memang mula mula kagok krn saya terbiasa mancing dgn conventional trolling reel tetapi setelah diberi instruksi tidak menurunkan rod tip nya terlalu rendah , semua beres . Sekarang dgn reel sekelas Stella sudah banyak marlin ditaklukan dgn menggunakan spinning reel , check this : マーリン カジキ 株式会社 カーペンター ルアー 釣り GTフィッシング 黒鮪 マグロ 雷魚 ライ ギョ モルジブ カンパチ アマゾン 小西健*

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sy setuju jg dgn om hambali...kayanya reell spining jg ok bwt trolling..walaupun sy br beberapa kali coba trolling pk spinning dan br angkat beberapa barcud dan tenggiri sy pk spinning reel..tp ok jg tu..tergantung kelihaian si pemencingnya...
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I apologize for not being able to follow the discussion fully but yes, spinning reels are definitely usable for light trolling. Peter Bristow whom Pak Jon fished with still uses Penn 9500SS for trolling wahoo, reels are loaded with 20 to 25 lb nylon mono and the lures are 14cm swimming plugs like Rapala CD14. The best wahoo I gaffed on Peter's boat was 35kgs (77 lbs) which was part of a triple hookup with the other two fish being 22 and 25 kg. It was my last fishing day before I left Madeira that season and I remember that day very well ...

Main points when trolling with spinning gear are

- Don't use lures that are too big and heavy
- Troll the rod "flat" as possible so that the lures don't pull so hard on the rod tips, and;
- After every fish, cut off the lure and troll the bare line for 3-5 minutes to remove line twist

Hope this helps

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