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    Apakah ikan marlin dan ikan cucut sama?

    Dear agan-agan.

    Saya sedang membuat skripsi tentang perbedaan penerjemahan novel The Old Man and The Sea. Dalam mengartikan kata 'Marlin' terdapat perbedaan antara dua penerjemah. Penerjemah pertama mengartikannya sebagai 'Ikan cucut' dan penerjemah kedua mengartikannya 'Marlin' (Istiophoridae & Pleurotremata). Untuk itu saya minta bantuan Agan-agan disini yang expert tentang jenis-jenis ikan... apakah kedua ikan itu jenis yang sama atau memang berbeda?

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    kek na beda om, mohon maap klo salah. marlin itu yg sirip atas sepanjang pungung klo cucut sirip na cm di atas punggung.mongo para suhu menambahkan

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    Sepanjang sepengetahuan saya :
    Marlin itu jenis ikan pelagis dan cucut itu sejenis ikan hiu ( tp ukurannya kecil makanya nelayan lbh familiar nyebutnya cucut)
    Tp didaerah lain gimana, sok atuh..sharing dong dong dong...
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    sama pak, cucut itu kalo bahasa inggrisnya bill jadi merefer ke semua jenis billfish
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    ikut rembuk yah....... kalow soal terjemahan, seringkali penterjemah itu kurang menguasai detail objek.
    Saya cendreung suka untuk mengacu pada pembahasan dalam bahasa Inggrisnya. Di cara program National Geographic mengenai Cabo Blanco, disebutkan bahwa ikan yg menjadi objek cerita adalah Black Marlin.
    Dulu wilayah Cabo Blanco ini dikenal sebagai sarangnya Marlin dengan bobot 'Grander" (diatas 1000 pounds).
    Naaah saya pikir, lebih cocok Mufli memilih Marlin Hitam sebagai objek pembahasannya.

    Sering kali istilah tradisional kita itu kurang tepat dan kurang detail dalam menyebutkan jenis ikan. Sebagai contoh istilah 'cucut' itu bisa dipergunakan untuk 'billfish' atau ' jenis hiu'.... bisa menimbulkan arti yg beda yah?.

    Kita berangkat dari konsep ilmiah saja.... cucut = billfish. Minturut buku katalog yg saya punya, Billfish itu terdiri dari pelbagai jenis :
    - Black Marlin = Makaira indica
    - Blue Marlin : Atlantic (M nigricans) dan Indo Pacific (M mazara)
    - Stripped Marlin = Tetrapturus audax
    - Swordfish (Genus Xiphias)
    - Sailfish ; ada 2 Atlantic (Isthioporus albicans) dan Indo Pacific Sailfish (I platypterus)

    naaaaaaah ada lagi istilah lokal : ikan pedang, ikan todak.... apalagi yaaah? banyak yg nyebut 'Billfish' (baik itu Marlin ataupun Sailfidsh) sbg 'ikan pedang' ada juga yg nyebut sbg 'ikan todak'.... nambah bingung khaaan??... guwah njuga binun kok...

    dengan pelbagai pertimbangan dan supaya gak bingung, saran saya anda mengacu pada Black Marlin allias Makaira indica ajah.
    Last edited by monyet; 26-09-2012 at 14:24. Reason: salah ketik
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    Ini termasuk billfish gak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laode_idris View Post
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    cendro = crocodile needlefish = houndfish = tylosurus crocodilus = belonidae
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