Fly buat bandeng!

george80 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 21:17

Maaf andaikata sudah ada rekan2 mengetahui cara bikin fly ini,hanya sekedar buat yang belum tahu!
Fly ini ciptaan guide terkenal kalau tidak salah dari South Africa dan sering mancing di Seychelles islands,bernama Arno Mathee!
Cara memancingnya tidaklah di retrieve seperti biasa! Retrieve hanya dipergunakan untuk menarik fly ini di area dimana kita kirakan bandeng liar ini makan,feeding zone!Seperti sudah kita tahu,bandeng liar(-laut),hanya memakan lumut2 atau algae.Begitu sampai ditempat,anda biarkan dead drifting,perhatikan leader anda kalau ada tarikan!!!
Anda bisa mempergunakan small strike indicator dari tape berwarna dijepit kira2 3 a 4 m dari fly. Style ini sering juga dipergunakan ketiga nymphing di arus buat trout fishing.
Di Hollang kagak ada bandeng liarnya,cuman di toko2 ready buat makan

,
mudah2an Pak Budi,Pak Sigit bisa memberikan more pengetahuan perkara mancing bandeng liar ini.
Hook: Saltwater ringan tapi kuat #2
Benang: Flat waxed mono chartreuse
Body: Calftail putih & chartreuse jangan kebanyakan tied only on the head
,streamer style.
Wing : Chartreuse antron yarn,then folded at the end of the shank back in
at the head to form an elongated"halo",which swells when wet,giving
the fly its algae look.
Head: Chartreuse atau green thread & head cement.

Salam,
Victor.

fishy · #2 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 22:17

Hi Victor:

Sorry, I moved your post to a new thread.

bonito · #3 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 00:43

Wow, nice indeed.
Thx for sharing Om.

BTW apakah bisa di translate ke dlm bahasa Indonesia agar teman2 yang lain mengerti juga proses pembuatan fly ini.

Oh ya apakah jenis fly ini termasuk dalam dry flies?

george80 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonito

Wow, nice indeed.
Thx for sharing Om.

BTW apakah bisa di translate ke dlm bahasa Indonesia agar teman2 yang lain mengerti juga proses pembuatan fly ini.

Oh ya apakah jenis fly ini termasuk dalam dry flies?

Wah,bung Jerry bikin saya garuk kepala!
Saya silahkan anda untuk translate,soalnya anda itulah expertnya!

Chartreuse adalah warna diantara kuning ama hijau,fly ini termasuk slow sinking flies,daripada itu maksudnya hook yang ringan tapi toch kuat!
Hook dari Trey Combs banyak dipergunakan(buatan Gamakatsu),tapi Tiemco or Owner Aki will do!
Terima kasih!

Victor.

Redfish · #5 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 11:25

Hey Victor,
I think they call that fly "Arno's Milkie Dream," or something like that....thanks for sharing.

i think Budi (snook fly) tried some algae patterns but the fish in the stocked ponds are fed pellets....so you have to chum them up with bread or pellets and use pellet flys (salmon egg patterns work too) or bread flys (tied from clumps of deer hair). sort of strange chumming fish in a fish pond but hey it works!
The fly you posted should be good for wild fish....anyone know where there are wild milkies in Indo that you can sight fish to?

Cheers,
Jim

fishy · #6 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 11:30

Jim:

Sometimes the can be found close to Sanghyang Island. Big size, about 6 kg each.

sigit · #7 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 11:48

@Victor- I've just read an article fr "wildonfly" magz 2003 edition provided by Budi fly about this particular fly...and it's exactly what jim said about the effectivenss for wild milkfish.
@Jim-I had once spotted the wild one while wading at P. Laki.. and it was tailing and may be feeding for the little crustacean or seaweed...Unfortunately I was targetting into something else...(read : cumi2)...distance from me abt 2-3 meter away and it were abt 3-5 school of big ones... I'b never experience again since.

Some folks told me tt in Shangyang island were occasionally spotted also for this milkfish...

Redfish · #8 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 11:56

let'g go! 6kg on a fly would be quite a fight...not as big as some of them in the Seychelles but big enough!

If you can see them and cast up current, floating the fly (dead drift) past them in their "feeding lane" you might have a chance. I don't think you would have much of a chance if you were just blind casting to them...need to be sight casting

Budi (snookfly) mentioned they can be near sangyang but the one time we went out there together we did not find any....maybe we didn't look in the right spot.

Redfish · #9 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 11:58

@ Sigit - where is P. Laki? Big flats to wade?

george80 · #10 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:05

Some folks told me tt in Shangyang island were occasionally spotted also for this milkfish...[/quote]

This fly is meant for wild milkies! I thought you guys chasing these wild torpedos already!! I wish you all the luck

,may be Jim,bung Sigit & bung Budi and I should go to the Seychelles?
Looking forward to hear from you guys!

Victor.

sigit · #11 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:08

P. Laki (part of p. seribu) is just 1 hour boat ride fr Tg Kait. you can wade around the island which take about 1.5 hour to complete. However, this island is well know to get a squid which they also wade....(actually I made a fly lure to get squid also..hehehehe)...
My self only ever caught a garfish only on fly....

But since this island is also a destination for locals during the weekend.. so it would not be so clean and neat..

snookfly · #12 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:22

Salam semua,

How bout homosasa florida in may, there should be
rod breaking activities over there!

But seychelles should be fun also , maybe too pricy, so we should look around
closer. Bali maybe, there are bones there..
I got other type of fly for milkys from old mags dated in the 90's
but havent got a chance to try them here. Ones I saw in Sangyang
was on the smaller side.

However there are reports about 2-3 kg milkys in ponds around indramayu.
Need to do a drive by eh? just say when...

gabuslaut · #13 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:32

git how about sepa island, what do you think if fly fishing team go there and do some practice.......

sigit · #14 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 14:19

@Budi... busyet... sama homo aja males bud..apalgi ke homososa.... mending yg ketero2 aja deh... hahahaha...mmmm...well for Bali I'm a bit pessismistic though... may be we should save longer for Komodo's trip... what u think?

@dede...Is P. Sepa still open? last I heard the're closed for good...sepa is quite ok if you use #3-#5 ..hehehehe.. look for cendro and small grouper... but parrotfish isfun too on fly...but bring lotss of chum (use rebon)...

hhockeyy · #15 (**permalink**) 18-03-2008, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by snookfly

However there are reports about 2-3 kg milkys in ponds around indramayu.
Need to do a drive by eh? just say when...

!!!WHEN!!!

snookfly · #16 (**permalink**) 24-03-2008, 11:33

Haha...

!!done!!

Thx

gabuslaut · #17 (**permalink**) 24-03-2008, 14:18

Hi Bud,

WHEN???........

..why you not invited me to joint.........

snookfly · #18 (**permalink**) 24-03-2008, 14:48

Boz De2-

I dont think u can cast that far from hongkong!! Hehe
We went friday, U were in hongkong remember??

Hey this weekend, 3 possible trips
1.sangyang (w/ fred aka. temen kite yg doyan sangyang)
2. Monster puri ( reopen)
3. Not definite yet but Tegal sounds possible (w/ gt ndut)

take your pick bos de2....

gabuslaut · #19 (**permalink**) 24-03-2008, 14:59

Hi Bud,

Sorry, yes you are right man, I am just back from bussines trip to hongkong, ok i will wait for your next invitation and we go together, for my this trip I will full concentrate wit