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Old 21-01-2008, 22:39
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Default Fresh Water Fly Fishing ( danau / sungai / empang)

Hi guys,
ijinkanlah sy mencoba utk membuat bbrp threads ttg Fly Fishing yg lebih spesifik spt:
1. Salt Water Fly Fishing
2. Fresh Water Fly Fishing (fly danau / sungai / empang)
3. 101 tips fly ? lagi translet ke bahasa indonesia (Coming soon)
4. Thread2 lain dgn topik yg menarik ttg Fly Fishing tentunya.


Latar belakang dan tujuan sy membuat thread2 tsb adalah dgn semakin meningkatnya antusias dan peminat Fly Fishing di forum ini dengan adanya bbrp PM dari member FF yg menanyakan ke sy ttg Fly Fishing.

Berhubung sy sendiri masih termasuk pemula dan belum lama mendalami Fly Fishing maka sy juga sudah mencoba meminta saran kpd Master2 Fly Fishing di Indonesia dan negara. tetangga Singapura dan Malaysia & belanda (dimana tekhnik mancing Fly Fishing sudah banyak peminatnya).
Dan saran mrk agar sy membuat bbrp thread dgn topik bahasan yg lebih spesifik utk setiap threadnya agar pembahasannya lebih mendalam dan lebih detail.

Tujuan sy juga agar tekhnik Fly Fishing lebih berkembang di Forum ini juga agar di setiap thread tsb para penggemar dan peminat Fky Fishing dpt sharing bersama-sama.

Sebelumnya sy mohon ijin dan restu dari Admin, SM, para Moderator, Master2 Fly Fishing di Forum ini serta tentunya rekan2 FF sekalian utk mencoba membuat thread2 tersebut di atas, tentunya bukan dgn maksud menggurui atau sok tahu tapi hanyalah sekedar sharing tekhnik Fly Fishing agar lebih banyak peminatnya di Forum ini.


Pertama-tama sy yg akan memulainya..mohon maaf kalau ada kata2 sy ada salah...dan teman2 di ff. silakan joint sharing atau bertanya sesuai dgn topiknya....


Hi pak victor...
sebelom terima kasih om selalu bantu dalam sharing ilmu .. sy sdh ngak sabar mau mulai thread baru bahas soal fly fresh water ...hehhex3

om beberapa teman ada pm kesaya tanya soal rod & reel yg bagus seperti apa...? dan sy coba email ke coho dan hari ini sy dapat reply dari sana seperti ini....>> mohon sharing pengalaman dalam pilih rod & reel yg tepat unutk fresh water (danau / sungai )....thank sebelom.......
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hi ricky, is henry here. this are the following item for your fly set i choose for you .
1) sage fly reel model 2560 +ross rod model FS 590-4. total $560 + $180=$740 and ++

2)sage fly reel model 2560+ ross rod FC594_4. $560+$250=$810 and++

3)sage fly reel model 2560+TFO rod leftykrey professional series 590-4. $560+$240=$800 and ++
above 1 2 and 3 is for $1000 budget.
4)shimano fly reel freestone 78 LA + ross FS590-4. $295+$180=$475 and +++ is for $500 budget.

5)hatch reel model 7 p plus +TFO TICR X 990-4$958+$360 =$1318 ++.

6)ross reel momentum 6 + TFO TICR X 1090-4. $865+$400=$1265 ++
above 5 and 6 is for budget $1500
7) shimano freestone 78 LA +TFO TICRX 990-4. $295+$360 =$655 ++

8 )) ross reel CLA 6+TFO TICR X1090-+4. $470+$400=$870 ++
above 7 and 8 is for budget $800 ++
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Old 22-01-2008, 21:52
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Pak ricky coba bikin umpan yg buat mancing d sungai dong. Hehe
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pertanyaan bagus sekali...baru tadi pagi sy tanya soal rod fly ama suhu2 ...saya dapat reply seprti ini... .
Gaya pancingan pula bagaimana? Dry fly? Nymph? Atau menggunakan wet flies sahaja...?

hehe...bang...di ruang sebelah bahas soal tying..kita baru sampai ilmu kelas SD bang...!hahhax3
kalau mau lebih dalam lagi bahas soal tying fly udah seperti pertanyaan ini... mau : dry / nymph /wet...fly...(floting atau singkin).?
>>>>>>>>>sorry bukan saya ngak mau jawab...karena juga baru pagi ini saya belajari soal ini...sebaiknya pertayaan ini kita simpan ke guru kita deh...hahhax3

dan saya tambahkan pertanyaan ke guru fly :
1. kalau di sungai arus yg kecan sebaiknya pakai jenis fly seperti apa..?

williem mari kita mulai masuk SMP fly.hehehehheh
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pertanyaan bagus sekali...baru tadi pagi sy tanya soal rod fly ama suhu2 ...saya dapat reply seprti ini... .
Gaya pancingan pula bagaimana? Dry fly? Nymph? Atau menggunakan wet flies sahaja...?

hehe...bang...di ruang sebelah bahas soal tying..kita baru sampai ilmu kelas SD bang...!hahhax3
kalau mau lebih dalam lagi bahas soal tying fly udah seperti pertanyaan ini... mau : dry / nymph /wet...fly...(floting atau singkin).?
>>>>>>>>>sorry bukan saya ngak mau jawab...karena juga baru pagi ini saya belajari soal ini...sebaiknya pertayaan ini kita simpan ke guru kita deh...hahhax3

dan saya tambahkan pertanyaan ke guru fly :
1. kalau di sungai arus yg kecan sebaiknya pakai jenis fly seperti apa..?

williem mari kita mulai masuk SMP fly.hehehehheh
oh pak ricky ada pembagian lagi iya,,, basah,kering,ngapung,tengelam,,tengah,,, wah wah mantap tuh,,,,,hehehe,,, saya jangan kelas dulu,,, di teka nol dulu iya,,,hehe,, lanjut pak di goyang,,,,,,,
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Old 23-01-2008, 19:06
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[quote=william;137183]oh pak ricky ada pembagian lagi iya,,, basah,kering,ngapung,tengelam,,tengah,,, wah wah mantap tuh,,,,,

bro.. kira2 seperti ini "" gambar saya upload ke sini..
buat tying jenis ini perlu hafal step atau di depan computer step by step (biasa saya begitu baru bisa jadi....)

soal buat sih bisa aja kita copy.... tapi for my personal saya mau tahu lebih banyak dulu soal wet / dry / Nymphs ...dari guru sharing...
dan soal bahan juga....yg mana cocok dan kenapa...?

kalau yg untuk di laut biasa lebih mudah buatnya...heheh...kebanyak sinking dan yg penting mirip ikan ..hehhehe...kalau udah ke sungai dan...fresh water...biar suhu yg mulai deh...ok...?!
mungkin suhu beberapa hari lagi sibuk..kita tunggu aja..

http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/humpy_scud.jpg Humpy Scud

Originator: Vladimir Markov
Tier: Vladimir Markov
Hook: Mustad sizes
Thread: Black
Tail: Hackle fibers
Rib: Silver wire
Shellback: Red Larva Lace and raffia
Body: Angora dubbing
Antennae: Hackle fibers

http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/...upa_markov.jpg Comparable Caddis Pupa

Originator: Vladimir Markov
Tier: Vladimir Markov
Hook: Mustad 80250 sizes 10-16
Thread: To match head of real pupa
Shellback: Yarn or turkey tail
Body: Dubbing
Gills: Antron yarn
Wing cases: Black hen body hackle or plastic
Legs: Knotted pheasant tail fibers
Eyes: Mono
Antennae: Mallard quill fibers

http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/daves_hopper.jpg Dave's Hopper

Originator: Dave Whitlock
Hook: Mustad 94831 sizes4-12
Thread: Gray
Tail: Red Deer Hair
Body: Yellow wool yarn
Hackle: Brown hackle palmered over body and clipped
Underwing: Yellow calftail
Wings: Turkey wing quill
Legs: Dyed yellow grizzly stems, clipped and knotted
Collar: Deer Hair, spun
Head: Deer Hair, spun


http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/...ph_edvards.jpg Heptagenid Nymph

Originator: Oliver Edwards
Tier: Vlad Markov
Hook: Mustad 8000 sizes 12
Thread: Tan
Tail: Moose hairs
Rib: Ginger ostrich
Body: Polythene dyed yellow
Gills: Ostrich herl dyed yellow olive
Thorax: Fine dubbing golden yellow olive
Wing case: Grouse hackle coated with head cement
Head capsule: Brown Swiss Straw
Legs: Guinea fowl or flank hackle dyed yellow olive
Note: I used other color combination to mach mayfly nymph in my area

http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/marilyns_fancy.jpg Marilyn's Fancy

ORIGINATOR: Tim Trexler
TYER: Tim Trexler
HOOK: Daiichi Alec Jackson spey hook; gold, size 3/0
TIP/TAG: Fine round gold tinsel and red floss, with 3 turns of
tinsel spiraled over the floss.
TAIL: Golden pheasant topping veiled with Amherst pheasant
crest and fibers from the green back feathers.
BODY: Four equal sections butted by black ostrich herl. First
section medium oval gold tinsel. Second and fourth,
purple floss; third section emerald green floss. Second,
third and fourth sections ribbed with 4 turns of fine
oval gold tinsel.
KEEL: Two pairs of green back feathers from Amherst
pheasant; smaller pair tied in at the beginning of the
4th section; larger pair tied at the throat. Topping
shaped to sweep the throat and curve toward the hook
point.
WING: Four pairs of Amherst back feathers, gradually
decreasing in size. The tip of each pair is aligned to
reveal equal amounts of green from the underlying
feather. The largest pair is tied in at the beginning of
the 4th body section, the smaller pairs tied in at the
head.
SHOULDERS: Red Amherst pheasant crest feathers extending to just
past the edge of the second pair of wing feathers.
Jungle cock over the red, to just past the tip of smallest
wing feathers.
CHEEKS: Small Amherst tippet over red tipped rump feather
from Golden pheasant.
TOPPING: Golden Pheasant topping shaped to cascade over the
edge of the wing.
HEAD: Black lacquer.
Marilyn's Fancy by Tim Trexler

Marilyn's Fancy was my very first full dressed "creation fly".
I designed it as a tribute to all the support she has given me in my flytying efforts. Although it is a rather complex fly in it's construction, the materials used in it are readily available and are not from endangered species.

Tying tips:
The wing and keel feathers tie in much easier if one flattens the stems with a pair of smooth jawed pliers. The tail and topping of Golden pheasant crest are soaked in warm water, then laid flat and shaped in the proper curves. Allow them to dry thoroughly before using.
As with all full dressed flies, patience is the key to success. Be completely satisfied with each step before proceeding to the next, and don't be afraid to remove and re-tie what doesn't look right. On average, this fly takes me six hours to tie!
I hope you enjoy my first attempt at a "creation fly". I enjoy looking at materials to see what new patterns I can come up with, so I hope to show you more creations in the future.

Permission to use photograph by Tim Trexler
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Old 23-01-2008, 19:13
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hello...teman yang suka tying.....sekali2 kita coba buat tying semacam begini..... dan kita coba fly / casting >>>> kucing.....hahahhahax3 (kid)


http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/tiger_head.jpg

After tying hundreds of regular mice, I decided to try something a little different. People would ask "What do catch with a mouse?" I would tell them... "Catfish!"- (Hardy har har). Then I would tell them "Actually, you could catch bass, pike, and large trout on a mouse pattern". Then one day I added the species "Tiger Muskie" (very much like a pike) to the list of predators and thought that a "Tiger Mouse" would be the perfect "Fantasy Fly" for a Tiger Muskie. So I tied up a Tiger Mouse, developing a method to tie in stripes on the top and yet keep the white belly. It was a very popular addition to the rest of the Fantasy Flies. Sometimes I refer to it as a "Tiger Mouskie".
http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/...ger_mouse1.jpg Tiger Mouse by Don Ordes

Originator: Don Ordes
Tier: Don Ordes
Hook: size 4/0
Thread: Black Kevlar
Tail: Elk Hide colored with a felt tip markers
Body: Packed, stacked, and trimmed deer hair-
orange, black, and white
Legs: Elk Hide colored with a felt tip markers
Ears: Shaved calf hide
Head: Packed, stacked, and trimmed deer hair-
orange, black, and white
Eyes: Black Plastic
Whiskers: White hackle fibers
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euy keren nya pak,,,,,,, tapi mampus bikinnya tuh,,,, kalo saya mah kagak sanggup deh ke situ,,,,, mungkin mesti master fly magelang turun dan pak sigit tuh.. pak !!
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Mantaffff....
sptnya manusia pun bisa tertipu neh,bener-bener dah..... top abizzzz
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Mantaffff....
sptnya manusia pun bisa tertipu neh,bener-bener dah..... top abizzzz
nah......sisa undangan ....trip sungai kalimantan.....siap .!?....saya mau coba fly kakap 3 kg up up++

pak piery & teman2 disana...pls..tolong sharing dong lokasi2 & info sungai yg bagus disana...? kemarin sdh ada beberapa teman mau casting and fly loh sana....
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nice post bro, keep fly
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[quote=patrick888leung;136419]Hi guys,
ijinkanlah sy mencoba utk membuat bbrp threads ttg Fly Fishing yg lebih spesifik spt:
1. Salt Water Fly Fishing
2. Fresh Water Fly Fishing (fly danau / sungai / empang)
3. 101 tips fly ? lagi translet ke bahasa indonesia (Coming soon)
4. Thread2 lain dgn topik yg menarik ttg Fly Fishing tentunya.


Latar belakang dan tujuan sy membuat thread2 tsb adalah dgn semakin meningkatnya antusias dan peminat Fly Fishing di forum ini dengan adanya bbrp PM dari member FF yg menanyakan ke sy ttg Fly Fishing.

Berhubung sy sendiri masih termasuk pemula dan belum lama mendalami Fly Fishing maka sy juga sudah mencoba meminta saran kpd Master2 Fly Fishing di Indonesia dan negara. tetangga Singapura dan Malaysia & belanda (dimana tekhnik mancing Fly Fishing sudah banyak peminatnya).
Dan saran mrk agar sy membuat bbrp thread dgn topik bahasan yg lebih spesifik utk setiap threadnya agar pembahasannya lebih mendalam dan lebih detail.

Tujuan sy juga agar tekhnik Fly Fishing lebih berkembang di Forum ini juga agar di setiap thread tsb para penggemar dan peminat Fky Fishing dpt sharing bersama-sama.

Sebelumnya sy mohon ijin dan restu dari Admin, SM, para Moderator, Master2 Fly Fishing di Forum ini serta tentunya rekan2 FF sekalian utk mencoba membuat thread2 tersebut di atas, tentunya bukan dgn maksud menggurui atau sok tahu tapi hanyalah sekedar sharing tekhnik Fly Fishing agar lebih banyak peminatnya di Forum ini.


Pertama-tama sy yg akan memulainya..mohon maaf kalau ada kata2 sy ada salah...dan teman2 di ff. silakan joint sharing atau bertanya sesuai dgn topiknya....


Hi pak victor...
sebelom terima kasih om selalu bantu dalam sharing ilmu .. sy sdh ngak sabar mau mulai thread baru bahas soal fly fresh water ...hehhex3

om beberapa teman ada pm kesaya tanya soal rod & reel yg bagus seperti apa...? dan sy coba email ke coho dan hari ini sy dapat reply dari sana seperti ini....>> mohon sharing pengalaman dalam pilih rod & reel yg tepat unutk fresh water (danau / sungai )....thank sebelom.......
""

Sorry, guys! Kagak menjawab cepatan,habis sibuk betul ama kerjaan!
Perkara Pak Henry mengirimkan contoh2,menurut saya bagus sekali,soalnya TFO rods memang banyak dipergunakan di Barat,Quality baik dan service baik sekali! Yang penting kagak mahal seperti Sage,Orvis,Winston,Loomis,just to name a few!
Kalau buat kolam atau sungai biasa kita pakai aftma 5/6,tergantung besar ikan yang anda targetkan.Kalau banyak pohon2 bakau seumpamanya saya sarankan 7 keatas, ini juga tergantung arus,dalamnya sungai etc.
Di laut tergantung apa memang banyak angin,pada umumnya dari aftma 7-10.
Kesulitan disini adalah anda tidak bisa mencoba sendiri bagaimana perasaan macam2 rod ini buat casting!!! Soalnya ini personal matter.Kedua adalah sampai berapa anda ingin mengeluarkan uang?Jangan sampai seperti Pak John bilang kagak dipakai,bosan, dan tinggal disudut rumah, kan sayang kalau begitu?
Perkara flies, inilah yang anda harus mencari sendiri!!(-reading the water).Dimana ikanya harus kita cari? Di permukaan?- dibawah permukaan?-atau dekat di dasar? Saya tidak bisa menjawab pertanyaan ini, soal tiap sungai ada dia punya pertanyaan.
Pada umumnya kita bisa pergunakan floating lines,kalau ikannya agak dalam,flynya bisa diberatkan dan leader kita panjangkan.Seperti Pak Sigit juga bilang,tanjakan ikannya! In other words,cobakan fly yang anda buat itu apa dimakan atau tidak!
Yang penting adalah percaya sama sendiri! Latih casting anda,dan cobakan saja contoh fly yang anda buat!!
Good luck,
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soalnya TFO rods memang banyak dipergunakan di Barat,Quality baik dan service baik sekali! dan cobakan saja contoh fly yang anda buat!!Good luck,Victor.
thank your reply om...victor
terimakasih atas replynya walapun om sedang sibuk...heheh...untung ngak lupa murid2 yg ada di indonesia...heheheh

iya saya plan mau beli no.6 merek TFO Temple Fork Outfitters Fly Rods - Lefty Kreh Signature Series, Jim Teeny Series, Professional, TiCr, TiCr X, Bluewater untuk fresh water , pendapat om victor sama dgn teman sy salah satu SM di froum china...pak ken .beliau org singapore tapi sekarang di china..ÈȰ®·ÉÓ¬£¬ÈȰ®´ó×ÔÈ»£*£*¶À¼Òר·Ã·ÉÓ¬°æÖ÷trouty - [º£Ï¿µöÓã]ÖйúµöÓãµÚÒ»ÃÅ»§ - Powered By SupeSite TFO selain harga bagus dan kualitas tdk kalah dgn merek papan atas.... sekarang byk merek papan atas sdh produksi di china dan di jual di market ..lipat2 harga..!
di china pun sekarang sdh produksi rod and reel murah sekali....(contohnya di malaysia semua org bisa beli alat2 fly).

omong soal tying Nymphs ...semalam sy coba buka2 kembali beberapa video teknik soal buat nymphs ..sy posting untuk di review kalau ada salah...dan jenis nymphs ini untuk ikan apa yg bagus...? terima kasih.....
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